Naruto in his first Kurama Feat showed was able to casually repel Bjuudamas that vaporized Mountains slmair to Ichigo and Aizen’s clashes, easily giving Naruto Gigatons of striking force like the two affmonetioned, however, this is with only half of … Ishida only trained with his father so he did improve but not as much as Ichigo or Sado. End game Ichigo is probably a bit stronger than end game Naruto, with Luffy kind of far under them imo. While you'll find more consistency with it than comics, the characters still vary in terms of stats a lot of the time. No one could do anything against Beerus, not even Gotenks and it was stated Vegito wouldn’t be able to do anything. "DODGE THIS!" Let’s find out. Luffy's strong, but not continent-destroying strong. Kisuke sighed. It would have to be at least a hundred trillion times faster to be measured in yoctoseconds. Right now Naruto is pretty fast - even faster than Ichigo. Aug 10, 2017 #6 Naruto tanked an attack that cut the moon in half. With this increased reiatsu does he attain a speed boost. Meaning Naruto would probably win! None of the Bleach characters at the time were even close to Gin's Bankai speed, including Aizen. I said it before and i'll say it again: Naruto characters are probably severalfold the speed of sound at best. Definitely Naruto. Kakashi4LIFE posted... shababboss posted... Naruto wearing sage hokage outfit, with Jiraya's scroll is the most epic outfit ever. i personally think ichigo would clap naruto if they fought as he is faster and stronger. His one true goal has never changed and he has been building power… Also there's this. Yes we do, actually. Anyway, I'd say no. Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Sunite February 20, 2012 at 8:49 pm Recently Ichigo has gotten really powerful, but as Naruto has completely bonded his chakra with Kurama’s Chakra… It would make Naruto the default powerhouse! Cannot be seen by Naruto 2. "And we're gonna do what with it." Naruto's Sage Powers gave him … I really wished whenever he used sage mode those clothes will appear out of nowhere like ichigo's banakai. Ichigo Kurosaki is a big name in the anime world, since he's one of the strongest heroes ever put on paper and screen.Bleach follows Ichigo and his friends as he takes the power journey from temporary Shinigami to full-fledged Shonen Hero, worthy of being a part of the elusive Big Three. Multiple x faster than lightning But Ichigo by contrast: 1. Monkey D. Luffy is the pirate king of the future. Goku punches naruto and ichigo and they both die so hard that they implode, if light knows goku's name and face, goku dies but then his friends find the dragonballs in one day, revive him, and then goku punches light and he dies so hard he implodes so hard and fast he takes out half of the death note universe with him. Even a simple zanpakuto's slash from any shinigami that could hurt him could one shot naruto even through his strong regenerative powers , as his soul would be hurt , purified and send to Soul Society. Plus didn’t death battle have him revert back to the Mugetsu used against Aizen after he uses his true Bankai. Ichigo has also displayed lightning fast speeds and even greater. There is a chance that reiatsu is different from chakra making Ichigo invisible to Naruto, and I think shunpo/his bankai speed can beat Naruto's speed. And the naruto verse have very few feats of soul resistance and the few they have are really weak ( most of the jutsus affecting the soul are showned to be extremely dangerous in the naruto world , and soul hax is the bread and butter of any bleach characther.). He isn't i know this but naruto is a wish fulfillment character of mine so yeah. Naruto will win, but it's going to be a pretty good fight. my niglets are making the argument ‘naruto can do shadow clones’ but it’s lightwork for ichigo to smoke all of them with either his getsuga tensho, cero (in vasto lorde form) or just simply cutting through all of them like he did with byakuya’s bankai. The thing is we never saw what Ichigo's true Bankai is fully capable of, but the fact that Ichigo is one of the op 5 strongest beings in all of Bleach, and the fact that his Bankai was even a genuine threat to Yhwach, makes me think that Ichigo was much stronger than DB gave him credit for. the only upper hand naruto has is that he has more attacks. Naruto in his first Kurama Feat showed was able to casually repel Bjuudamas that vaporized Mountains slmair to Ichigo and Aizen’s clashes, easily giving Naruto Gigatons of striking force like the two affmonetioned, however, this is with only half of Kurama’s Charka and without Sage Kurama Mode. Though I would still say the highest tier of speed in the Naruto verse (Juubi Hosts, Gai) could probably keep up. Luffy is fast, but he can't travel faster than light. Luffy has lightspeed reflexes but as far as movement goes he is miles slower than light. I don’t really know about Ichigo coz i havent watched Bleach so no opinion on him. The concept of Ichigo's bankai is to force the reiatsu of his bankai into his own body, resulting in an increase in Ichigo's reiatsu. They made Ichigo slower than his peak by not applying his True Bankai multiplier. Two shonen heroes duel to the death. Ichigo and luffy would gang goku up naruto would sit back, and let his clones wear them down Wrong there, Goku is stronger, faster, more durable, intelligent, etc, then Gotenks. Ichigo wasn't going to like this part. Because of this, the sword itself was rather weak at this point, and it is more a manifestation of Rukia's deprived spiritual energy than Ichigo's. Naruto is literally decended from a god And has god tier power King Kai is a god. All of naruto's clones would be destroyed just from ichigo's reiatsu . I don't buy Zommari being faster than Bankai Ichigo, he honestly lacks the feats. Definitely Naruto. While a patched Kenpachi, also … Naruot has some Hax, but not nearly enough to total Ichigo's 1. That would still Be more impressive than anything Ichigo has done up until now. Meaning Naruto would probably win! Even Death Battle nerfed Ichigo in his fight with him and it’s unfortunate (hell look at my pfp and I don’t even do that lmao) Ichigo is much faster and their strength is kinda even but with Ichigos forms he’s slightly stronger than Naruto We decided to test this with real cosplayers and got...kind of a weird result! Pain moved faster than before picking up random objects along his path with Universal Pull, gathering it behind him before throwing it full force at Ichigo. Truth Seeking Orbs 2. He grabbed aizen and dragged him several miles into the distance in less than a second 4. What makes you think naruto, ichigo, luffy, and natsu, who are at most mountain or maybe island busters, could do anything to him? ROUND TWO! Ichigo isn't faster than Naruto. Bleach VS Naruto! Ichigo sliced 8 million blades out of the air in less than a second. Near light speed 3. He can't be, there's no way this could be possible. Hollow Merge makes him even faster and then True Bankai on top of both is at least a 5-10 time multiplier. Believe it or not Luffy is probably faster than Ichigo, if not just as fast (btw I'm not favoring anyone). Naruto stomps these versions of Ichigo because he has better feats and scaling in every category. Flat-out-wrong. A lightning bolt's return stroke is two hundred and twenty million miles per hour, about one third the speed of light. Notice that said mountains are forest-sized as well. 21 duulækker. That was him at his weakest. Naruto (This was ninetails, 100% bjuu sage six paths, Chakra overoad, super fox 4 naruto x1000) Yusuke (This was Human form Ichigo) Goku (Theres so many Gokus on this website I forgot which one) Hell itself Sosuke Butterflaizen (via mugetsu) Seriously, the main reason that Ichigo beats Naruto is due to his speed being multiple times higher than Naruto… oh for the topic, KCM>SM Absoulutely this. Unless he hits them in large chunks. Not applying the Bankai boost and leaving him with his True Shikai speed is so dishonest. No particular reason (from reading/watching), just that I don't think Kubo'd do that and never point it out. Ichigo wins . Press J to jump to the feed. Like Base Form Ichigo is faster than Base Naruto. Final Getsuga Ichigo still blitzes him. Well, according to Death Battle, EoS Naruto would win against EoS Ichigo, but I don't really agree. Ichigo and luffy would gang goku up naruto would sit back, and let his clones wear them down Wrong there, Goku is stronger, faster, more durable, intelligent, etc, then Gotenks. That was him at his weakest. Now, there're only two possibilities for why he could beat the creep that thrashed us. Naruto, ichigo, Saitama and luffy gaps him n speed. I don't think it's possible to make a worse argument, ngl. The war having all but destroyed that part of him. Which is what he did. When it comes to wank, however Bleach and One Piece take the cake Bleach: Eos Ichigo = Ssb Goku, Star Level Yammoto, True Darkseid level captains, Universal Gremmy. Naruto jabbed a finger toward Ichigo. Naruto uses talk no justu it’s super effective, Ichigo most probably just agree.. it would be a short talk. 4 Raven bad debater. me and my niggies are arguing about this fight. Zangetsu: Ichigo's Zanpakutō, which in its original, unreleased state, took the form of a very oversized katana, thanks to his immense but poorly-controlled spiritual power. If you want I can show you, but I'm not going to go through the trouble if no one cares. plus he has 4 tails to use Because Ichigo has more spiritual power than his body can handle, he is constantly leaking power. Okay so I don't really get what the point of this was. Also in a race, Naruto would take it seriously and Ichigo wouldn't. The age old question, does running like Naruto actually make you run faster? But that's just me. Ok now on naruto speed he did dodge light attack which was madara light fang attack but he barely dodge it, let’s Low ball this to 1.5 times faster than light (not accurate at all) anyways in speed ichigo is clearly superior ( not counting naruto new form cause there’s 0 feats and sasuke sharigan speed has never been recorded before), I would say naruto is planetary or moon level cause in the last movie naruto did survive a moon level a attack and that would make him moon level base of feats, now we have ichigo who is the level of the soul king who split the universe into 3 or 2 I forgot that feat would be universal, Ichigo blitz getsuga tenshou cutting naruto in half and dies ( death battle has 0 mercy so don’t say talk no jutsu ). Regardless of Ichigo being a Soul Reaper, he's still slower. It's Naruto VS Bleach in our biggest anime fight ever! Because Naruto can last alot longer in nine tailed mode, than ichigo can last in Bankai. He is really relentless too, he doesn't hold back. Naruto fans kinda low ball him and it’s crazy. He's a ninja and they go at a way faster speed than humans. When he arrived with the toads SM in full swing with that outfit in the crater that was Konoha.....*coughs* I came. A brief list of 5 reasons Bleach is a better anime than Naruto. How about you fags compare both of them at current level, Naruto is arguably stronger then ichigo dangai ichigo, Ichigo just keeps losing his battles while naruto is winning. Bleach characters have actual FTL feats, and Hell-Verse has a universal AP feat. ichigo don't have to lift a finger to deal with them . Speed is dependant on two things: reiatsu and foot arts (one of the four shinigami arts). In Naruto, viewers learned that the only real way to counter the Sharingan is to not look the wielder in the eye, but that is easier said than done.In Bleach though, there is one character who doesn't need to worry about the Sharingan's Genjustsu: Kaname Tōsen. Jesus ****ing Christ you people are so ****ing dense! I even showed proof that Ichigo never once block a singular petal, but a mass lumps, yet some of you are still denying it. Lol that's because Gin himself is slower than his Bankai. Speeds Ichigo is faster than naruto that was proven when the Lieutenant Dodge light,when aizen escaped from the gotei 13 on ep 62 of bleach. A more accurate term would be a yoctosecond. Aug 10, 2017 #7 duulækker said: Naruto tanked an attack that cut the moon in half It's just that his opponents started getting faster. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. No one could do anything against Beerus, not even Gotenks and it was stated Vegito wouldn’t be able to do anything. is the son of Masaki and Isshin Kurosaki, a Quincy with the powers of a Shinigami. So even when you are trying To rely on speed as a argument for Ichigo winning Naruto high tier - Low God tiers scale to LS reactions. currently naruto since ichigo lost his powers but if ichigo had his powers it would be long fight, but ichigo can beat the nine tailed fox, and has beaten bigger, his bankai is way too quick for naruto, ichigo is older and stronger faster and has a will to fight (protecting) correct me if Im wrong but I dont think naruto has a goal like, ichigos hollow form would just destroy naruto. In Naruto, viewers learned that the only real way to counter the Sharingan is to not look the wielder in the eye, but that is easier said than done.In Bleach though, there is one character who doesn't need to worry about the Sharingan's Genjustsu: Kaname Tōsen. Luffy's command of Haki is great, but it's a wet match compared to Naruto's chakra. He's gotten way stronger much faster than you, or you aren't accessing your real power." Lol, especially considering that in that scene Pain reacts and dodges the last Rasenshuriken in an amount of time that can't even be measured in milliseconds. Ichigo Kurosaki(黒崎 一護,Kurosaki Ichigo?) Like Like. Ichigo is faster than naruto that was proven when the Lieutenant Dodge light,when aizen escaped from the gotei 13 on ep 62 of bleach. Kyubey may be an adorable and petite cat-like creature, but it also possesses a monstrous power capable of obliterating… Naruto: six paths naruto is only mountain level , no one in Naruto being faster than mach 10. Who will win? Naruto can dodge light speed attacks and can move faster than lightning. Seriously, the main reason that Ichigo beats Naruto is due to his speed being multiple times higher than Naruto's feats. Anyways, shinobi does not have spiritual pressure so Naruto might be forced into submission by it alone ATastyMuffin The real problem is ichigo's powers . Where it will meet a decisive end, once and for all! He can't be, there's no way this could be possible. Once more you showed how little you know. Not stronger than H2 Ichigo or FTG Ichigo. He is a shinigami(soul reaper) which is basically a g g Regardless of Ichigo being a Soul Reaper, he's still slower. Faster than any of then could blink, Kisuke was being help up by his collar. No particular reason (from reading/watching), just that I don't think Kubo'd do that and never point it out. It is said that human eyes are able to discern an image from a blink of the image at a speed of 150th of a second. Imo, ichigo scales above him in speed, fighting a stronger opponent (Ywach), and Ichigo Also could be invisible to naruto, Ichigo is faster than naruto that was proven when the Lieutenant Dodge light,when aizen escaped from the gotei 13 on ep 62 of bleach. Broly is also faster than light. If we truly take into account all the natural haxxes the bleach characthers have , naruto vs bleach versus are mainly stomps or missmatchs. (Which will take a while). As for Naruto, well without the kyuubi he's not much of a threat, at best he can compete with Natsu and Tsuna. Ichigo's Spiritual Pressure allows him to attack Naruto psychologically & with phantom pain, almost similar to Genjutsu, & is probably greater in quantity than Naruto's Chakra, considering it can last him for weeks without running out while Naruto tired out after about a day. Right now Naruto is pretty fast - even faster than Ichigo. Naruto characters are as fast as Kishi needs them to be in the scene. How about you fags compare both of them at current level, Naruto is arguably stronger then ichigo dangai ichigo, Ichigo just keeps losing his battles while naruto is winning. Ichigo will not land a solid blow on Naruto without Naruto having 5 nine-tailed rasengans coming back at Ichigo. With that said, the strongest would either be Ichigo or Luffy. Really, really hard. Just like their chakra reservoirs are as large as Kishi needs them to be. A billion tiny blades simultaneously is exactly what Byakuya said, whether it was a mass or not, he still cut through all the blades, and Byakuya himself confirmed this. If you want to see other ‘Who Would Win‘ scenarios follow our link. Who will die? Imo, naruto has a moon splitting feat which is impressive! Naruto uses this technique to distract or win over men with the power of sex appeal, successful at nearly every attempt. Ichigo may be faster and invisible. After analyising their powers and abilities at their highest level, we have concluded that Naruto Uzumaki is stronger than Ichigo Kurosaki, mainly due to the fact that he is a better fighter and has a more diverse set of skills and attacks at his disposition than Ichigo does. Music: equimanthornn - Invasion Kool and the Gang - Get Down On It. "We're all going to use it to get out of here." The strongest Arrancar or Espada SS Ichigo would have a shot at beating would be Dordonni or Szayel (if he avoided the ability that lets him break his limbs and organs and shit). It doesn't seem all that different in terms of size; city sized chunks of moon were still falling around without any visually noticeable damage to the moon. NAPPA is stronger than King Kai. He blocked the second one. He can also move faster and his reflex has improved. The lieutenant dodge the beam of light with ez and ichigo bankai makes him 5 times faster and and he can dodge byakuya attacks with medium difficulty , now let’s get into the hollow mask which is supposed to give him another 5 times speed boost and than we have flash step. Anyway, I'd say no. Did you even watch the movie? Years after the death of his mother, Ichigo uses his innate spiritual awareness to help local ghosts, and unlocks his potential as a Shinigami when Rukia Kuchiki comes along in pursuit of a Hollow. Okay so I don't really get what the point of this was. Well , more like , bleach powers in general. The first ghost we see in Bleach is literally floating. The Ninja with Jinchūriki powers! The next panel he dodged that means in the time it took a lightspeed attack to cross a few inches he saw it and reacted to it. Naruto curbstomps. No, they are both extremly powerful but, Naruto is stronger. but it wont have any effect on Luffy cause Luffy's and idiot. Both of those are calced at significantly lower than Naruto's best feats. It made no difference they were going to die all the same. Immunity to electric-based attacks 4. I would say naruto is faster if just because of him dodging a light speed attack when that attack in one panel already sliced his staff, and his face was inches from it. Naruto would beat Ichigo with all his annoying "BELIEVE ITS!!" Naruto is stronger then him now, you bleach tards can't admit naruto is stronger and you guys compare pretimeskip Ichigo to Current naruto. SS Ichigo's speed was called "average" by Base Grimmjow, who should be slower than Base Zommari (especially his Sonido Gamelos) so Zommari should win easily. Discord Link: https://discord.gg/Ay8dBQgI want to post a link to a Discord I’ve just created. I believe that was before your mask or even that Bankai thing. There are decent speed feats here from versions of Naruto & Sasuke that are weaker than their EoS versions. You're right in the fact that ichigo have better stats than naturo , but the gap ain't that big in the current meta . Naruto is stronger then him now, you bleach tards can't admit naruto is stronger and you guys compare pretimeskip Ichigo to Current naruto. Ichigo's tremendous speed lets him to move faster than the Getsuga Tenshō itself, allowing him to fire multiple blasts from different directions. Databook refers to bankai ichigo from the soul society as lightning speed 2. Naruto isn't close to his speed. Ichigo sliced 8 million blades out of the air in less than a second. He's a ninja and they go at a way faster speed than humans. It’s promising to be a fun story so keep reading until the end! The manga rivalry of these two has finally entered DEATH BATTLE! But Naruto is definitely stronger, his Tailed Beast Bomb would annihilate Ichigo and his Getsuga Tenshou. Naruto is also ALOT faster than Ichigo . Reply. A lightspeed attack. Mind, Evolved Aizen and FG Ichigo are considerably faster than everyone else in the verse. He is also aggressive. Report Save. Even if Naruto can't see Ichigo, he can still sense his presence when in Sage mode or Nine Tails mode. He blocked and reacted to gins bankai which is mach 500 3. WTF is this? Speaking of those 3, Naruto and Saitama are FTL with naruto moving as fast (or faster) than minato’s teleportation. Ulquiorra Cifer believes the Getsuga Tenshō is Ichigo's strongest attack, comparing it to a Hollow's Cero, particularly a Cero Oscuras. Ichigo began slicing and dicing at remarkable speeds, and then Flash Stepped faster to get out of the rubble projectiles path. Ichigo isn't faster than Naruto. ichigo is waaaaaaaaaay faster than naruto Why do you think so 1. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Even if it moved at lightspeed it wouldn't come close, forget sound. WTF is this? 6. share. Realistically the speed gaps in HST are overrated. Gin also admits that he lied about his Bankai's retraction speed; it's actually significantly slower. that whole map thing is inconsistant as **** lol.....tho it cant be quantified its still a nice feat. yo he surrounded ichi with mutltiple streams of blades and he sliced thru all of them... this is something byakuya who knows his sword very well is impossible. Like their sizes indicate the smaller one, Iceringer, was faster and the big one, Demora, was stronger. ICHIGO. Ichigo uses his bankai to quickly grab some ramen, gives it to Naruto, then whacks him on the back of the head while distracted. He's saying that Ichigo is a ghost when he preforms almost all of his feats and we know gravity only affects things with mass, which is different for all Shinigami/ghosts. Both Naruto and Sasuke went from Lighting country to Fire nation by the time it took the Sage to have a conversation with Kakashi. But Ichigo has broken the gates of hell feat which is impressive as well. Regeneration/healing to a limited degree 4. So first up is Ichigo the fastest of the four. Hell , even going inside the reiatsu aura of most bleach characthers would be too much for naruto characthers souls to handle given their weak showned soul resistance . True but that applies to most manga. TL;DR: I think that a Horn of Salvation Bankai Ichigo going all-out could actually beat Nine-Tails Naruto. That being said, I have no problem contesting Naruto has more raw power than Ichigo. All of this, of course, omits one very simple way Naruto could win: by blowing up the island they're fighting on, letting Luffy tumble into the sea. Ichigo wont even faze him. Also in a race, Naruto would take it seriously and Ichigo wouldn't. Personally i enjoy reading stories where naruto is the strongest. If Ichigo took a full strength fully juiced up Naruto rocking some fully sage chakra enhanced Rasengan, Naruto should be able to win the exchange. I lol'd. Naruto, who almost certainly is faster than Madara at this point, is struggling with a rocket powered robot who takes minutes to fly across a city. Ichigo would win, he just has too much going for him. Immunity to genjutsu (wouldnt be useful here) 3. I think Ichigo is stronger than Oro and I believe he has enogh strength to cut through Naruto unlike Oro who was atleaset able to pierce his skin (Naruto's crazy regenerative ability is … Also, the moon doesn't change Naruto's reaction speed. Gintama is considered by many to be a comedy anime but those who have watched the anime know that there are several… Being a god in anime isn't all that impressive. When Starrk blitzed Ichigo and Kenpachi, both of them moved within the same distance and proceeded to hit the ground at the same time. Naruto isn't close to his speed. The Quincy with Shinigami powers vs. I can, but not until I get home. "All the gossip claims you beat him. Tsuna Sawada. Pain urged as he ran faster than before. A younger Ichigo would've facepalmed at this, but that Ichigo was long gone. While it's true that at times some characters seem far faster than others, generally you see that the speed tiers aren't all that pronounced until the god-tiers come in. All shinigamis, hollows and quincies can target and either hurt/BFR/destroy/eat or erase souls . A reddit for the Bleach manga & anime by Tite Kubo. Ichigo wins because both characters are capable of hurting each other and Ichigo is faster. Ichigo can cut alot of dense things with his sword, and has shown alot more feats than Oro has with his sword.